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Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival’s degree, preventing run for president by perihelions

Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival’s degree, preventing run for president by perihelions

Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival’s degree, preventing run for president by perihelions

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  • Post Author
    anticensor
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 8:34 pm

    This is not only revoking his diploma, but establishing a very dangerous precedent in Turkey: "all rights are temporary and can be revoked on a whim"

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    Bostonian
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 8:35 pm

    I doubt the university did this for non-political reasons, and requiring a university degree to hold office is a bad idea anyway.

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    aiono
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 9:33 pm

    I am from Turkey and this really concerns me. If we don't protest this in the streets and fight back I am afraid we don't have any kind of law anymore.

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    ginko
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 9:39 pm

    Wasn't aware that a university degree is a requirement to run for president in Turkey. I'm not aware of any other country that does that.

    edit: Wikipedia actually has a list[1]. Did you know you need to have a bank account to be eligible to become president of France?

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidential_qualifica…

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    walrus01
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 9:41 pm

    For a quick reference to anti-freedom-of-the-press and Internet censorship under Erdogan in Turkey, recently:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Turkey

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    bigmattystyles
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 9:43 pm

    What was his degree in? The article doesn’t say.

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    starfezzy
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:20 pm

    Why did they annul it? I'm assuming they gave a reason, not sure if that's a reasonable assumption.

  • Post Author
    echoangle
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:25 pm

    Wow, you have to have a university degree to run for election as president? That’s a wild law.

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    g8oz
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:28 pm

    Erdogan has turned the country into an electoral autocracy. The Swedish Varieties of Democracy centre released its annual report analyzing the state of democracies around the world as of the end of 2024. America is still listed as a liberal democracy. It's an open question whether it still will be by the end of next year.

    https://www.v-dem.net

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    throw3849490
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:30 pm

    Banning oposition over irregularities, is perfectly normal in mature democracy! It is a sign that democratic process works, and can heal itself! Ancient Athens have ostracism.

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    overfeed
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:30 pm

    In other, recent, non-related news, Columbia University revoked the diplomas of some pro-Palestine protestors[1]. The CBS headline buries the lede, but revoking diplomas is not too low for American universities.

    1. https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/columbia-university-pro…

  • Post Author
    otikik
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:33 pm

    That sounds so corrupt.

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    amadeuspagel
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:38 pm

    The really interesting news here is that in Turkey you need a degree to run for president.

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    throwaway3485t8
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:38 pm

    To add insult to injury, it could be the case
    that Erdogan's degree is fake [1]

    (I don't know of a single Turkish person NOT voting for him that thinks that
    his degree is authentic)

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recep_Tayyip_Erdo%C4%9Fan_univ…

  • Post Author
    seydor
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:42 pm

    he has 2 years to get another degree

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    motohagiography
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:46 pm

    maybe they failed to take the requisite social media training to maintain it?

  • Post Author
    TrackerFF
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:50 pm

    Equally shitty is the fact that 27 other people probably got their degrees annulled, just as a cover your ass measure from the unis side.

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    exabrial
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:54 pm

    Erdogan worries me as a NATO partner. They're incredibly important geopolitically.

    The rule of law appears to be disappearing, and its turning into a Lukashenko/Putin situation.

  • Post Author
    pmags
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 10:56 pm

    The Trump administration is similarly trying to purge / stifle academic institutions and bend them to their uses.

    For example, the Trump administration has told Columbia to dissolve specific academic departments. See this earlier discussion:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43358925

    The US and Turkish governments are operating under the same authoritarian rules of engagement, it's just that the Turks are further along the trajectory.

  • Post Author
    IncreasePosts
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 11:32 pm

    Well, can't some university just award him a degree?

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    ozgung
    Posted March 18, 2025 at 11:41 pm

    Note that two of the other popular opposition parties’ leaders are in the prison right now. Imamoglu is the candidate for the main opposition party (CHP, Social Democrats) and is leading in the polls. There are multiple investigations for Imamoglu as well. So imprisonment or a political ban is still on the table. This was just a low-key attempt to disqualify him without further ado.

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    Sabinus
    Posted March 19, 2025 at 12:22 am

    Just like how Putin had two actual opposition Presidential candidates ruled ineligible due to 'irregularities' with their applications.

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    LorenDB
    Posted March 19, 2025 at 12:29 am
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    johnea
    Posted March 19, 2025 at 12:46 am

    [flagged]

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    realist31415
    Posted March 19, 2025 at 12:50 am

    East and West, No matter what you call this platform or forum, the vast majority of users are from America and Europe. The East is often viewed from an Orientalist perspective in the eyes of the West. However, when it comes to Turkey, it resembles neither the East nor the West. Our electoral system is not like that of the East. There is no fraud or any other kind of manipulation. However, on the road to elections, anything goes. Laws are enacted, changed, or amended as needed. This is the electoral process. But while the elected officials are chosen by the people, the candidates who make it to the election stage undergo intense training and a series of specific events behind the scenes.

    Now, if you look at this matter with straightforward logic, you see that Erdoğan unfairly invalidated İmamoğlu’s diploma and that this is against the law. However, I can only explain the reality of the situation as follows: For nearly 20 years, newspapers, the media, news channels, and even certain famous figures have speculated about Erdoğan’s missing diploma. Whether Erdoğan has a university diploma or not remains uncertain. This is something the left in Turkey has always known but often mocked.

    I want to emphasize this: The left in Turkey is ineffective because you cannot change the paradigms inherited from the past. Now, the discussion revolves around İmamoğlu’s diploma. But why? Because, quite simply, those who once criticized Erdoğan for allegedly not having a diploma have now been given a president without a diploma in return.

    Was this action illegal? Absolutely not. But is justice in the country applied equally to everyone? Of course not. Do not perceive me as right-wing, left-wing, or an Erdoğan supporter. I am analyzing the situation from a historical perspective.

    As for the invalidation of the diploma, if there is an absolutely void and legally null action, how can “acquired rights” (müktesep hak) be established? In the case of an “obvious mistake” the decision can always be reversed. Therefore, the diploma is invalid. Even if most Turks here do not accept this, states operate collectively, and only those chosen by the game masters(USA) remain in play. İmamoğlu is neither one of those people nor even on the bench. That is why, even if he won admission to the university, unfortunately, he has no real chance of being elected.

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    reramuyc
    Posted March 19, 2025 at 1:01 am

    [dead]

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    throwaind29k
    Posted March 19, 2025 at 1:33 am

    The more fundamental question is why a degree should be necessary to run for President. US does not require one for example.

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