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Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’ by limbicsystem

Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’ by limbicsystem

Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’ by limbicsystem

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  • Post Author
    hunglee2
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 10:35 am

    Trump always hated foreign movies – I remember him disparaging an Academy award winning movie purely because it was non-English language. Wonder what prompted this outburst – the success of Ne Zha 2 (china bad), or No Other Land (can't say Palestine)?

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    bananapub
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 10:45 am

    It bodes very badly for everyone that the entire Republican Party is fine with having an entire federal government policy based on the random TV-driven whims of a bitter, broken and clearly ailing old man. Would they even try to stop him pushing the button?

  • Post Author
    pluc
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 10:47 am

    Defund education then defund culture. Sounds exactly like America First/America Only. Next up is propaganda and filling Americans' minds with only what he wants you to know. He can flood the media as he's been flooding the government, all the pieces are in play.

    Still nobody putting up a meaningful fight. Your window is closing.

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    xz18r
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 10:49 am

    I live in Belgium. It feels like 95% of all films I ever hear about are American. Opponents counter MAGA with 'America was never great', but here they'll say 'Movies have never left America'?

  • Post Author
    seydor
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 10:57 am

    it s impressive that , despite the US deciding to self-implode there is nobody willing to step in to compete for their place. It's as if the species has culturally peaked after its demographic peak. Europe is already in retirement and US seems to follow. Maybe we'll see African dynamism in a few decades

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    littlestymaar
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:02 am

    Not only are the US the biggest film exporter in the world by far, with Hollywood being a pillar of American soft power, but you can't even apply “tariff” to movies as it is IP, not physical goods (on which tariffs apply). Sure you can imagine schemes to tax these anyway, but that's a huge can of worms to open for the US, are they are net exporters of everything IP related.

    The EU has been struggling with base evasion and profit shifting (BEPS) from US companies because it was all about IP and they never dared to tax it in fear of upsetting the US government. But if the move comes from the US first, then they will follow suite with a lot of enthusiasm.

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    misja111
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:02 am

    Was the USA's movie industry really under threat from abroad? In my local cinema here in Europe the great majority of popular movies is American ..

    To me this move seems more a kind of cultural censorship. Similar to how many foreign movies can't be shown in Russia or China.

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    Ekaros
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:02 am

    Great way to kill one of the product categories that you do not have trade deficit in…

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    jarym
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:06 am

    Yes this man was democratically elected. There didn’t seem to be a particularly appealing set of options for the electorate.

    As an outsider it seems a lot like groups pulling the political levers in the US only ensure candidates that can be ‘handled’ are put forward and those that can’t will be rooted out.

    That’s why the choice was between braindead Biden vs deranged Trump. And when it was clear Biden wasn’t an option, a belated shift to try sell Kamala to the electorate.

    I don’t think we’ll see strong presidential candidates – those clearly motivated to better the country and its citizens – in the near future either. The process now seems to suit the corporate and lobby groups who jostle to get their share of influence.

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    llm_nerd
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:13 am

    Trump is likely saying this because the new Prime Minister of Canada is visiting tomorrow, and Canada has been fairly successful building a "Hollywood North" industry — lots of good filming locations, lots of talents that are indistinguishable from Americans, and tax credits on top.

    This is 100% targeted at Canada, and trying to threaten destroying the Canadian film industry as another lever against Canada.

    And it is laughably silly. Even in Canada alone, "Hollywood" nets far more than it ever spends here[1]. And of course worldwide media is something that the US has an enormous trade surplus. It's yet another harebrained bit of nonsense from the extremely smooth, simpleton mind of Trump and his greasy used-car salesman, carnival barker Howard Lutnick.

    What Trump is really achieving in all of these declarations is making the rest of the world ask why do we accept Hollywood controlling the film or music industry, or Silicon Valley controlling the tech industry, or NYC the financial industry, etc? The end result of this is going to be massive decentralization and lowered importance of US industry leadership.

    [1] Not to mention that the tax credits quite literally subsidizes the industry. And FWIW, I am wholly against tax credits for film productions, and much like paying a sports team to build a stadium, the accounting of the supposed benefit just doesn't make any sense.

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    incomingpain
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:17 am

    Vancouver and toronto just had a heart attack. london UK and berlin probably far less impacted.

    elbows up! Though i dont recommend continuing to antagonize trump even more because it's just triggering his ego and making him retaliate.

  • Post Author
    ujkhsjkdhf234
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:25 am

    How do you tariff a movie?

  • Post Author
    mk89
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:27 am

    I am so looking forward to the sequel of Rome ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_(TV_series) ), filmed in Georgia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome,_Georgia).

    Or the new Lord of The Rings in the Grand Canyon… :)

  • Post Author
    hello_computer
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:32 am

    [flagged]

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    jparishy
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:33 am

    The filmmaking industry is constantly flying productions all over the world to avoid paying US labor. Waste of time, money, energy. And the saved money isn't given back to the people making the movie, the unions are still constantly fighting with the industry for basic asks.

    I don't see a problem here, this is what tariffs are actually for. Broken clock is right twice a day yada yada

    eta: one can not like the man and not think this is a bad idea. same as we don't need more dolls from china and it's weird for us to suddenly die on that hill. /shrug

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    steveBK123
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:33 am

    Guy is mad at seeing too many subtitled films on NFLX

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    jansan
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:38 am

    Europe should counter this with 500% tariffs. I (being German) really want to see a comeback of French cinema.

  • Post Author
    habosa
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:38 am

    The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak English, etc)

    It’s the cultural equivalent of being the world’s reserve currency, it’s a massive free advantage in almost any situation. Stupid stupid stupid to threaten it.

  • Post Author
    trebligdivad
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:41 am

    Soon he'll want Wallace & Gromit with American humour.

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    jaimebuelta
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:44 am

    Not sure I follow.

    Biggest real action movie last year was “Deadpool & Wolverine”, a Disney movie which was shot in UK and made a bit over 50% of its revenue overseas[1]. Its main stars were Canadian and Australian.
    Does this mean that you’ll have to pay double to go watch it to cinemas in the US? Will that make Disney to focus on the international market?

    [1] https://the-numbers.com/movie/Deadpool-and-Wolverine-(2024)

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    jpambrun
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:44 am

    Not sure how you even tarif movies. I guess Netflix will receive bills based on viewership?

    Anyway, as usual other countries will retaliate. American movies will become both more expensive to make and taxed abroad. Meanwhile, we can expect more people will turn to piracy to cope with rising inflation. I can't imagine any scenario where this isn't backfiring.

  • Post Author
    thrance
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:46 am

    Is no one in this administration willing/able to deter the senile old man in charge from worsening the situation through new tariffs? I mean, don't get me wrong, this is music to my ears. Ever since I became an accelerationist last november, I cheer every time I see them pour oil on the fire.

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    croes
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:48 am

    So movies will get more expensive and studios will do less.

    Seems like Trump is the best ally for all those who want to reduce US influence in the world.

  • Post Author
    LatteLazy
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:51 am

    A lot of films are produced in the uk, so this should mean no trade deal. It won’t of course but there you are…

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    aaron695
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 11:52 am

    [dead]

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    rizs12
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:03 pm

    Any chance Trump could do this for software 'produced in foreign lands'?

  • Post Author
    d3nj4l
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:04 pm

    This makes no sense and people are giving it too much credit. What does “produced” mean? How do you “tariff” a movie? When is the movie crossing the border and who’s doing the valuation, customs check, and so on? There’s literally no substance to this and people are tying themselves into knots to make sense of this.

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    Buttons840
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:05 pm

    Do you want a European version of Netflix to be cheaper (in the US)? Because this is how you make foreign websites cheaper.

    The Trump admin seems to be hastening the day that foreign website are more popular than US websites.

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    bilekas
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:09 pm

    Was something actually been written up or is this just some rally ranting ?

    Because I would love to read the National Security justification for imposing a tariff on foreign movies.

    In fact I'm sure some US companies are gonna be hit by this such as Netflix ? Disney ?

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    drooopy
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:13 pm

    We're really close to him issuing an executive order demanding that crops be watered with Gatorade, aren't we?

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    Der_Einzige
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:13 pm

    Given how much modern actors and related are freaking out about AI (despite holding "egalitarian" social views), I'm more than happy to see them destroyed. Very bad for US soft-power but great for helping gut hollywood faster.

    Huge amounts of the top brass of hollywood are disgusting. Tom Cruise and the rest of Scientologies leadership should be in prison right now, and that's just one tiny example of the sea of shit found in hollywood.

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    perihelions
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:14 pm

    Does the First Amendment preclude the US from imposing prohibitive taxes on media?

    It'd be clearly unconstitutional to ban them outright; so, where and how's that line drawn?

    late edit: I just want to note the text of POTUS' announcement includes this: "It is, in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda!" The overtly expressed motive here is animus towards the content of the speech (not some content-neutral factor like trade balances).

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    intellectronica
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:17 pm

    Someone needs to tell Trump about BitTorrent.

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    alistairSH
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:17 pm

    Will this simply drive studios to produce with an even heavier eye towards the Chinese market?

    There’s a nugget of truth to Hollywood moving production overseas, but I’m not convinced a massive tariff will have the effect Trump wants. Just like all his other economic fuckery.

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    victorbjorklund
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:17 pm

    I'm sure some in EU loves this. Many politicans in EU wants an excuse to prop up european cinema and this will give them the perfect excuse.

  • Post Author
    codingbot3000
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:18 pm

    As a side note, why does he only get ~21k likes on Truth Social for his post?

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1144521171432…

    What is going on there? Why don't they fix the likes for him? :-D

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    the_duke
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:25 pm

    It's not just "evil greedy production companies want to save money", as some other comments imply.

    There is EU regulation requiring that 30% of content available on streaming services for European customers are "European works". The definition is a bit complicated, but this is definitely a big part of why plenty of production has moved to Europe and the UK.

    If this goes through it could bring some problems for Netflix et al. They can always artificially restrict the low-value content content from customers in EU countries though. As if the arcane licensing and availability landscape wasn't crazy enough for media…

    (See the "Audiovisual Media Services Directive")

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    apexalpha
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:33 pm

    I don't get it? How many non-US movies does the US even import?

    I can't think of any country that the US imports more movies from than it exports?

    Even if you believe in tariffs what industry in America does this protect that needs protection?

    Of is he gambling on recipritoral tarrifs to 'punish' the liberal Hollywood???? Sounds conspiracy-like but I legit can't think of any other reason this makes sense.

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    _3u10
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:34 pm

    How does one tariff a movie? It’s not like because it’s made in Australia that the blue rays are shipped through there? Not that anyone uses blue rays, like at what point does a movie go through customs

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    pcurve
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:41 pm

    For movies that have heavy CGI / blue screen reliance, it is almost irrelevant where it is actually shot.

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    Bluestrike2
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 12:51 pm

    I realize it's just another hair-brained scheme likely cooked up on the porcelain throne, but part of me is curious about how exactly they'd implement this train wreck.

    Since Trump is relying on declarations of national emergencies for his tariffs, there's the question whether it's even legal given that Berman Amendments to the IEEPA[0] explicitly exempt "informational materials, including but not limited to, publications, *films*, posters, phonograph records, photographs, microfilms, microfiche, tapes, compact disks, CD ROMs, artworks, and news wire feeds" from the President's authority under IEEPA.[1]

    Even if we set that aside and ignore the likely legal challenges, how would you actually implement them? It's not like a movie or TV episode "produced" overseas gets transmitted into the US each time somebody wants to watch it. It's a digital file, and you're really only sending it once. So when do you tariff the damn thing, how do you manage to actually do it since there's not exactly a literal port of entry for the internet, and what exactly do you value it at? The system isn't built to track and tariff info being uploaded to random servers, and making it work would require all sorts of new law.

    Plus, what's the legal definition of "production" he wants to use? What constitutes foreign production? Can some of the producing just be done remotely? What if raw footage is uploaded instead and then it's edited here? Or a nearly finished copy that just needs something minor done to be considered ready? Hollywood accountants are in a league of their own. Put them in a room with lawyers and accountants whose focus is the creative eccentricities of tariff engineering–hello, chicken tax people[0]–and I shudder to imagine what they'd get up to.

    We're only a few months in at this point, and I feel like I'm losing my mind.

    0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Emergency_Econom…

    1. https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/house-bill/2333…

    2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

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    kjksf
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 1:07 pm

    Maybe people should first understand the context of this.

    Apparently, here's the data:

    California is losing its grip on the film industry as Canada, the UK, and Australia outspend the U.S. on production subsidies.

    LA’s soundstage occupancy dropped to 90% pre-strikes, while Warner Brothers and Netflix ramp up overseas filming.

    Even a $3.75 billion tax credit boost might not be enough to keep Hollywood on top.

    Meanwhile, Vancouver is adding 20 new soundstages, and UK productions hit a record $7 billion.

    Here's Ben Affleck talking about this: https://nypost.com/2025/04/18/entertainment/ben-affleck-crit…, https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1913449981643456612

    Here's Adam Scott and Rob Lowe talking about it: https://x.com/medx0/status/1919178518031896903

    Basically it seems that movie production and jobs created by it moved outside of US in a massive way.

    Hence the leftist tarrifs meant to reverse that and bring movie production back in US

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    zelias
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 1:49 pm

    The rumor I heard is that Trump watched _Escape From Alcatraz_ over the weekend, which resulted in this decree in addition to the "we are reopening Alcatraz" decree

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    SpacePortKnight
    Posted May 5, 2025 at 2:16 pm

    Next up, all software produced in foreign lands would be subject to tariffs.

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