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The F-35 as a Subscription Service by sorokod

The F-35 as a Subscription Service by sorokod

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  • Post Author
    oceanhaiyang
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 6:13 pm

    why wouldn't all nations just reverse engineer them once they buy them?

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    adriand
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 7:19 pm

    Hence why Canada is now considering bailing on its purchase of F-35s.

    The prospect of getting cut off is hardly theoretical: the US already partially halted support for Ukraine's F-16s (I'm not sure where this stands at this precise moment).

    The US is clearly demonstrating it is an unreliable partner in defence. Western nations cannot buy into a platform when its supplier might go from being a democratic part of the West to aligning with dictators and autocrats literally overnight. This doesn't just mean that platforms like F-35 are vastly less desirable to Western militaries, it also means that other things we thought we could rely upon, like the nuclear umbrella, are also unreliable, which is likely to lead to nuclear proliferation.

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    somanyphotons
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 7:21 pm

    Lockheed Martin must be really annoyed at the current administration. Who's going to want to put in new F35 orders now

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    readthenotes1
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 7:21 pm

    "Imagine buying a state-of-the-art smartphone, but its full functionality is locked behind a subscription service. "

    Why is the word 'imagine' necessary?

    Also, love the advert at the bottom "Hate subscriptions?"

  • Post Author
    nradov
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 7:24 pm

    This previously submitted article covers some of the same topics in greater technical detail.

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43329336

  • Post Author
    neilv
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 7:28 pm

    So what's the "vintage Linux ThinkPad" of fighter aircraft — capable, maintainable, affordable, and no-nonsense? F-16?

    (I'm going to start thinking of my big ThinkPad T520 as an F-15E.)

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    maxglute
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 7:31 pm

    It's hilarious (really borderline treasonous) as a "joint strike fighter" program, no none US partners thought maybe they could secure some sort of sole-source provider deal to at least have some leverage. Well I think Martin Baker does all ejection seats.

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    Sharlin
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 7:34 pm

    The Commander of the Finnish Air Force gave an interview on the matter (Finland recently purchased 64 F-35As). He dismissed any concerns, of course – what else could he officially say?

    > He expressed confidence that the United States and Lockheed Martin would ensure the operational capability of Finland’s F-35 fleet in all circumstances, given the decades-long partnership. He also noted that all modern weapons systems, including those used in Europe, contain software components primarily originating from the United States.

    https://yle.fi/a/74-20150575

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    rqtwteye
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 7:42 pm

    Let's hope Europe finally starts developing their own again. It will be good for jobs and technical knowledge. Globalization can be good but for critical things like weapons or also chips, it's better to have capability at home.

    I think Trump may be miscalculating the situation. The Ukraine war already caused a shift of some countries away from the West towards Russia/China. With Trump being so openly hostile towards former allies, the US may lose influence world wide.

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    delichon
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 7:56 pm

    I've read speculation about robocars that will drive themselves back to the dealership if you're late on a payment. An F-35 can operate as a big drone. They don't even have to send Maverick to repo it. On its next outing it can fly itself home at the administration's whim. Which may be inconvenient for the pilot, their wingman, their mission, etc.

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    r0ckarong
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 8:23 pm

    You wouldn't download a national defense grid.

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    hipsterstal1n
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 1:56 am

    These planes that we sell, not just the F-35, all come with a bevy of support from US folks. I have friends and family that travel that globe, visiting US allies, in order to support, train, and meet with counterparts in the respective countries to assist their use of US aircraft they purchase. These friends and fmaily also get flown around if there are any accidents or investigations involving these planes. The F-35 is just the next step in the "subscription service".

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    jlkuester7
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 2:00 am

    The "issues" described here seem to me to be basically just run-of-the-mill aquisitions considerations. Is anyone out there buying any kind of enterprize-grade hardware in any industry and not doing the due dilligence to consider operating costs over the lifetime of the unit? All technology of sufficient complexity requires a supply chain to be in place to support it. Folks are not just waking up today and realising those F-35s they bought will need to be supported or maintained.

    The only thing remotely newsworthy here may be a story around a loss in global confidence in the US "brand", but I think the actual implications of that (if any) still remain to be seen….

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    mwinatschek
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 3:31 am

    Could that become a problem with any electronic product made by US companies? If their government demands Apple, Google & Co. to remotely brick computers, phones, and tablets for whatever reason, why should I bother buying them in the first place?

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