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Show HN: Connecting an IBM 3151 terminal to a mainframe [video] by norbert_kehrer

Show HN: Connecting an IBM 3151 terminal to a mainframe [video] by norbert_kehrer

Show HN: Connecting an IBM 3151 terminal to a mainframe [video] by norbert_kehrer

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  • Post Author
    sgt
    Posted April 8, 2025 at 12:43 pm

    Very cool

  • Post Author
    flkenosad
    Posted April 8, 2025 at 1:27 pm

    We need to bring back spiral cables.

  • Post Author
    successful23
    Posted April 8, 2025 at 1:53 pm

    Super cool project. The block mode on the 3151 was way ahead of its time — kind of wild how it handled forms locally like that. Love the idea of hooking it up to a mainframe via your translator. Also yeah… we really need to bring back spiral cables.

  • Post Author
    Aloha
    Posted April 8, 2025 at 2:19 pm

    This is very cool!

    As someone who wishes more people got some programming exposure to IBM z and how it works differently than minicomputer derived operating systems (both *nix and Windows count here), I think this is awesome.

  • Post Author
    electroly
    Posted April 8, 2025 at 2:25 pm

    At an old job we had a 3151 connected to an RS/6000 with AIX among other Wyse serial terminals. I suspect it came with the RS/6000 and they bought all the cheaper Wyse terminals later. Purely character mode in this configuration. I had no idea it supported any kind of block mode. Fascinating!

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    pelagicAustral
    Posted April 8, 2025 at 2:28 pm

    I'm freaking out… At 50:28 he says "…everything is green…" when referring to the monochrome terminal of the 3151, I'm seeing Cyan… is this the end?

  • Post Author
    reaperducer
    Posted April 8, 2025 at 2:29 pm

    Block mode was sort of the text terminal version of today's web SPA's.

    I worked with one at a chemical company back in the 90's, and they were wonderfully efficient. Only send a single chunk of data when needed, not a constant stream of individual keypresses that have to be interpreted and processed.

  • Post Author
    leoc
    Posted April 8, 2025 at 2:50 pm

    Here's another, recently-started YT channel focussed on mainframes: ErnieTech's Little Mainframes https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdi4FOLU9-kSiiE7tVuVyjg .

  • Post Author
    zabzonk
    Posted April 8, 2025 at 2:54 pm

    We connected our two IBM 4381s (VM/CMS) to our BT mega/kilostream serial network using VT200 (and VT00 & VT52)-emulating terminals via an IBM 7171 protocol converter. I had the somewhat unenviable task of programming this beast, but it worked well enough, and (like all IBM gear) was very well documented. This would be mid-1980s. The 7171 was good because it meant we didn't have to replace all our terminals.

  • Post Author
    msla
    Posted April 8, 2025 at 3:41 pm

    Huh. It actually is ASCII and not EBCDIC. I didn't know ASCII block mode terminals existed:

    https://terminals-wiki.org/wiki/index.php/IBM_3151

    https://www.ardent-tool.com/3151/

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