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Part two of Grant Sanderson’s video with Terry Tao on the cosmic distance ladder by ColinWright

Part two of Grant Sanderson’s video with Terry Tao on the cosmic distance ladder by ColinWright

Part two of Grant Sanderson’s video with Terry Tao on the cosmic distance ladder by ColinWright

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  • Post Author
    j7ake
    Posted February 24, 2025 at 12:26 am

    The corrections in his blog post show you the level of precision mathematicians are used to.

    A regular interviewer would have left the inaccuracies as they are because it’s too tedious to go over all of them when you have a casual conversation.

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    Gunax
    Posted February 24, 2025 at 6:07 pm

    This was very entertaining. I had a rough idea of the timeline before, but had never thought about it in this way (that is, a ladder).

  • Post Author
    dang
    Posted February 25, 2025 at 8:14 pm

    Related. Others?

    Climbing the cosmic distance ladder: Terence Tao book announcementhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24743177 – Oct 2020 (13 comments)

    Terrence Tao: The Cosmic Distance Ladderhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1782398 – Oct 2010 (6 comments)

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    jessriedel
    Posted February 25, 2025 at 8:40 pm

    Note that the modern cosmic distance ladder has multiple partially independent paths using different techniques, making it more like a DAG. The wikipedia page has a nice diagram.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_distance_ladder

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    zokier
    Posted February 25, 2025 at 9:34 pm

    tbh I would love to see full length video walking through the work that Kepler did with actual numbers, to me that part remained bit unclear. Especially how to get some quantitative values out of the analysis, considering how the eccentricity of the orbits is not really something easily visually discernible.

    > In principle, using the measurements to all the planets at once could allow for some multidimensional analysis that would be more accurate than analyzing each of the planets separately

    (from the blog post)

    I'd also love to see this idea expanded further. Intuitively it feels like adding Venus into the calculations should dramatically help constrain the orbit of Mars, but how exactly that would work out I'm not sure.

  • Post Author
    csours
    Posted February 25, 2025 at 10:12 pm

    They don't go into detail, but Cepheid stars are amazing

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cepheid_variable

    Consensus mechanism for pulsation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa%E2%80%93mechanism

    Basically the changes in ionization state, opacity, and temperature all influence each other, causing a cycle.

  • Post Author
    tonetheman
    Posted February 25, 2025 at 11:38 pm

    [dead]

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    throwawayk7h
    Posted February 25, 2025 at 11:49 pm

    I have a suspicion Tao's FAQ [1] is at least partially AI generated, based off the language used.

    [1] https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2025/02/13/cosmic-distance-la…

  • Post Author
    erulabs
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 1:25 am

    The more I learn about Kepler the more I believe that he alone advanced humanity several decades or possibly centuries. His incredible drive to prove his own theory, and then his ability to put that theory down and to match one to the evidence, oh man. I've loved his story since the Carl Sagan Cosmos episode on him sniped me as a kid, but I get just as excited about it in videos like these (part one of this series explains how Kepler determined the orbits of the planets).

    If you want to be deeply inspired, read about his life, his book Somnium, what happened to his mother. It's all so profoundly motivating.

  • Post Author
    jayrot
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 1:28 am

    Stephen Jay Gould said: "I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops."

    This quote really drives home the point that the overwhelmingly vast majority of scientific discovery and progress throughout history has come with humanity's entirely self-inflicted handicapping, like a V8 engine running on only 1 cylinder. Can't help but wonder what our knowledge here in 2025 would be like had we, as a species, tapped into our full potential by empowering women and people of color (to name just a few categories) earlier. You can almost see it in action with the people mentioned here as time went on.

    Wonderful set of videos.

  • Post Author
    UltraSane
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 2:45 am

    The gravitational wave based distance measurements are really awesome because they are the only way to verify red shift distances. You can calculate how strong the wave should be based on the difference in mass between the two objects before collision and the combined object after and then calculate how strong the wave should be when it reaches earth. Right now the precision of the distances are only 10% but in the future when something like the Cosmic Explorer with 40km arms is built they will get a lot more precise.

  • Post Author
    EcommerceFlow
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 4:50 am

    The coolest YouTube videos I’ve seen in a while, even better cause I saw the eclipse last year

  • Post Author
    merek
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 5:53 am

    Fantastic video, the methods are explained super clearly.

    Also highly recommend David Butler's "How far away is it" video series. He covers the same methods, and spends a good amount of time discussing phenomena along the way (star life cycles, magnetars, black holes, galaxy mergers, etc).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgNJwg2GISs&list=PLpH1IDQEoE…

  • Post Author
    brendan906
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 6:30 am

    Grant, your content is sublime, but the camera shake in this video is excruciating. It's severely eyestrain inducing. Feeling crazy that no one has mentioned it. You all must have eyes of steel.

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