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Next generation LEDs are cheap and sustainable by geox

Next generation LEDs are cheap and sustainable by geox

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    hulitu
    Posted March 17, 2025 at 5:44 pm

    > Next generation LEDs are cheap and sustainable

    Sustainable ? Made from tropical forest trees ?

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    ilove_banh_mi
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 10:03 pm

    "sustainable" was incorrectly translated from the Swedish "miljövänliga" which instead means "environmentally-friendly" ("sustainable" is "hållbar" in Swedish)

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    NegativeLatency
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 10:39 pm

    Current LEDs are pretty cheap and comparatively sustainable (to other lighting technology), but lots of LED based lighting devices ship with:

    – non replaceable batteries (flashlights)

    – unreliable drivers that fail before the LED does, or kill the LED by heat or excessive voltage

    Happy to see people working on new LED tech but the downstream effects of selling disposable stuff has to be much worse?

  • Post Author
    opwieurposiu
    Posted March 20, 2025 at 10:46 pm

    Is the gold in LEDs just in the bond wires?

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    softgrow
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 12:04 am

    Surprisingly or not, isn't a very new idea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perovskite_light-emitting_diod…

    Note that extending the lifetime is key to taking advantage of their lower base material cost. Lot of work needed there.

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    WalterBright
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 1:03 am

    When I was fiddling with LED circuits back in the 70s (!) I experimented with turning the LED on and off with a square wave. If you turned it on and off rapidly enough, your eye did not notice it, and your eye perceived it as fully bright. (Adjusting both the frequency and duration of the "on" part.)

    Hence, you could get some decent power savings doing this.

    I wonder if this is commonly known. I've mentioned it to a couple EEs over the years, and they were able to reduce the power consumption of their devices.

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    temptemptemp111
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 1:11 am

    [dead]

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    declan_roberts
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 2:03 am

    At this point I don't care about sustainable. I just want dimmable LEDs that don't flicker!

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    droopyEyelids
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 2:26 am

    Anyone else a bit uncomfortable with how they say this next generation will have lead in it, but we shouldn’t worry about that?

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    NullPrefix
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 3:10 am

    Can these new LEDS do proper color spectrum or are we still stuck on incandescent bulbs?

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    umvi
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 3:56 am

    Now we just need modern houses that have a DC circuit dedicated to lighting

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    econ
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 4:54 am

    I've bought 3 cheap alarm clocks and the LEDs are now so "good" the display lights up the entire room. With limited bedroom materials my inner macgyver was quite pleased with himself when he put one in a sock which has nothing to do with the topic but it did work. I can also confirm that cheap clocks are still amazingly hard to configure. By pressing multiple buttons simultaneously I managed to set one of the clocks to display the time only when a button is pressed. This is quite useless, I haven't figured out how to unset it and it isn't mentioned in the manual.

    My point would be that the LEDs are now so cheap and good that the rest of the devices seem expensive by comparison and manufacturing can't resist the urge to wrap them in crap. I think I've purchased 30 bicycle lights in total. The Edison bulbs with dynamo sometimes last a hundred years (except from the replaceable bulb)

  • Post Author
    rob74
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 5:04 am

    > We’d like to avoid the grave.

    Don't we all… but somehow I get the feeling that something was "lost in translation" here?

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