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hilux
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chinathrow
These LRADs have always been planned to be used against mass protests, from day one.
crooked-v
I've seen some theories that it was actually an ADS (basically a low-power microwave beam, immensely painful but tuned to be just under the threshold to actually cause visible burns), since there haven't been any reported cases of permanent deafness yet.
The student organizers in the crowd did an incredible job clearing people out of there before the police could escalate further and cause more mob-crowding panic deaths.
aaron695
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ThePowerOfFuet
https://xcancel.com/nexta_tv/status/1901244199220982213
aquir
The protesters described the noise it was like something huge was flying past over them, looking at the reaction it must’ve been terrifying
hettygreen
Is there any counter measure for this?
Hardcore hearing protection?
Noise cancelling headphones?
Handheld sound insulation "shield"?
ChrisArchitect
Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43377133
mdhb
I don’t think governments should have access to the “make the protestors immediately go away” button that they can just hit whenever they want.
neilv
I wonder how the engineers and scientists who contributed to that less-lethal weapon feel about it.
tptacek
LRADs have been used against protesters in Australia, New Zealand, the United States, France, and Germany.
casenmgreen
Serbia is one of the Russian-controlled Governments, along with Hungary and Georgia; these are the countries where we expect to see such attacks made to suppress protest.
(USA is not controlled, any more than say China is controlled, but is an authoritarian regime (so no real elections), so there's a shared world view, and here also I would expect to see much the same.)
elaus
Even without knowing the background of those protests: It is heartbreaking to see a crowd of peaceful people (seemingly during a moment of silence) being attacked by their own country and fleeing in panic and pain.
anticensor
Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43377133
observationist
Serbia had the LRAD systems on hand, after buying them in 2022, most likely from Genasys, but possibly from HyperSpike.
https://genasys.com/lrad-products/
It's a legal gray area in Serbia where the use against civilians isn't explicitly forbidden, so they're playing fast and loose and moving fast to crush opposition. It's better than troops just gunning people down, but for a modern, supposedly civilized country it's horrible to see.
The people in power are the type of people that use their power in these ways. The US shouldn't be supplying them. We're not the world police, we don't need to enforce global norms, and we shouldn't be selling hyperoffensive mass crowd control technology. They should be limited to Temu LRAD, or their LRAD at home; we shouldn't be providing them S-Tier dystopian authoritarian kits for DIY oppression.
The people that profited off of this are a special kind of evil. We shouldn't be outfitting dictators, gangsters, or warlords.
But, greed is good. The dollar is king. This is what happens when incentives and principles don't align.
impossiblefork
It really isn't smart to do this kind of thing.
Once an organization actually attacks you, it's very easy to decide that any legitimacy they view themselves as having is irrelevant and to come back next Monday with mortars and machine guns.
dist-epoch
That's some impressive range, 200 meters.
And it seems as effective in the back as in the front.
I bet this video will 10x the orders for these devices.
suddenclarity
Are there any reputable sources confirming this? So far I've only seen random accounts on social media making the claim. The police, defence ministry and emergency hospital all deny the claim.
Jeez. Getting your comment flagged for asking for a source. I'm out.
blogabegonija
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grujicd
Close friend who was on the spot described it as car or plane running towards you, you don't only hear it, you also feel vibrations in the body creating panic and fear.
All demonstrations of LRAD I heard on youtube were with high pitched sound, not a "whoosh" as witnesses experienced last night in Belgrade. Can these devices play any kind of sound?
What is described by victims, and what can be heard on some recordings from last nights, sounds more like Vortex Cannon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJpChS-_RJg
nntwozz
What happened to just shouting at each other? That would have been more civilized.
hello_computer
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yimby2001
I belong this is just a mass hysteria from some loud truck noise during the silence, only thing special about this is that normally a huge crowd like this isn’t so quiet for so long