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Kagi Assistant is now available to all users by angilr

Kagi Assistant is now available to all users by angilr

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  • Post Author
    viraptor
    Posted April 18, 2025 at 4:33 am

    If the staff sees this – please stop preventing zoom. Not only is that bad for accessibility, it makes the article less useful for everyone – there's a screenshot included showing off the feature, but it's too small to read on the phone and I can't zoom in.

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    blissofbeing
    Posted April 18, 2025 at 5:55 am

    It would be nice if all models where available on every plan too.

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    C4stor
    Posted April 18, 2025 at 6:02 am

    The "fair use" part takes a lot of place in this article.

    It talks a lot about what happens if you use more tokens than what you're allowed, but curiously doesn't pip a word about what happens if you use less – for example maybe with a partial rebate on your next billing cycle ?

    I think "fair" should mean "fair for all parties involved", currently it's rather a "we don't want to incur any risk" policy, since I don't see how it's fair for my end of the contract.
    I'd rather pay for my actual usage at any other provider than pay for min(actual usage, 25$) at Kagi.

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    m1keil
    Posted April 18, 2025 at 6:11 am

    Anyone used both Kagi assistant and perplexity and can share how was the experience?

  • Post Author
    colonial
    Posted April 18, 2025 at 6:21 am

    > A note on our fair-use policy

    > Basically our policy states that you can use AI models based on your plan’s value.

    Although I likely won't use Assistant, stuff like this is why I love Kagi. My relationship with them as a customer feels refreshingly transparent; I can't think of any other consumer SaaS provider that automatically answers my reflexive "how does this make money?" question.

    (Compare, say, Discord. It's best in class, but eternally unprofitable – which makes me wary that it might fold or go to hell at the drop of a hat.)

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    fhd2
    Posted April 18, 2025 at 6:27 am

    I wonder why the rollout is specifically over the weekend. I'd personally do something like that Monday to Wednesday rather than Friday to Sunday. It seems like the kind of thing that needs monitoring and quick reactions – can easily get expensive if something goes wrong.

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    xigoi
    Posted April 18, 2025 at 6:53 am
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    maelito
    Posted April 18, 2025 at 7:13 am

    Did Kagi change their mind on financing a russian asset, Yandex ?

    I haven't seen any news about this.

  • Post Author
    greatgib
    Posted April 18, 2025 at 7:16 am

    Obviously I'm happy to benefit from being able to use most model "for free" in my paid non ultimate account.

    But I'm concerned that this will not rot the business model like that kind of thing happen for other services.

    I would have preferred that the full of my subscription cost goes to the core feature of developing the search engine and directly the related feature. And as of today, I pay a separate premium if I'm interested by the AI assistant.

    Now, with it being in all subscriptions, and knowing that anyway they can only work by paying the token price per request to all AI providers, it means less of my money going to the search index improvement, and what I'm more worried is that a forced increased of the subscription price in the coming years.

    Something like, as you know, our costs are high, so we need to raise the pricing to stay sustainable.

    Even if not the best reference, this remind me of Netflix saying look we are adding "videogames" (that no one wants) to your subscription for free, but now we will have to raise our prices, because you know, inflation and all of that

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    TekMol
    Posted April 18, 2025 at 7:26 am

    "Privacy by default"

    I don't know. To me, requiring me to give them my email and then having all my searches associated with that email is the opposite of privacy to me.

    Yes, Google, Bing, Perplexity and Co could do fingerprinting and try fuzzy matching to cluster my searches. But at least that would be fuzzy and against the law in many places. While with Kagi, every search of mine would be clearly labeled as coming from me.

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    qwertox
    Posted April 18, 2025 at 7:27 am

    I was given a free month of Kagi to test, and it had so many rough edges that during the last days of of the trial I was already using Google again.

    Notable issues for me:

    – maps (from Mapbox) are really bad. Sluggish performance and lack of information

    – barely any info boxes

    – no translation feature ("gründonnerstag englisch") fives me links to leo.org (which was a cool site in the 00s) and to other sites, but Google gives me a translation box with the result

    – no timezone calculations: "10 am PT" in Kagi: "= 10 Pt am (metric petaton attometers)" in Google: "10:00 Freitag Pacific Time (PT) entspricht 19:00 Freitag in …"

    – no search history, which is sometimes really useful to have

    Other than that, the search results are really good.

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