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Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law by DanAtC

Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law by DanAtC

Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law by DanAtC

9 Comments

  • Post Author
    Kenji
    Posted March 22, 2025 at 8:15 pm

    DOH is your friend. My regime poisons DNS and enabling DOH makes things accessible again.

  • Post Author
    drpossum
    Posted March 22, 2025 at 8:20 pm

    [flagged]

  • Post Author
    djoldman
    Posted March 22, 2025 at 8:27 pm

    > This decision follows a similar case against Internet backbone firm Cloudflare. In January, the Court of Milan found that Cloudflare's CDN, DNS server, and WARP VPN were facilitating piracy. The court threatened Cloudflare with fines of up to 10,000 euros per day if it did not begin blocking the sites.

    I'm always curious about jurisdiction on this stuff.

    If Cloudflare had no physical machines, employees, and property within Italy's borders, under what law could Italy levy a fine?

  • Post Author
    bakugo
    Posted March 22, 2025 at 8:28 pm

    > The goal is aimed at preventing illegal football streams

    It's impressive how much internet censorship in Europe is currently being caused by this one group of extremely greedy people. It's one of the rare cases where the sheer size and international influence of companies like Google and Cloudflare can actually do some good for the world by fighting back against such laws.

  • Post Author
    perching_aix
    Posted March 22, 2025 at 8:39 pm

    Am I correct in recognizing this as a new low, or is there a prior example for such a demand?

  • Post Author
    stalfosknight
    Posted March 22, 2025 at 9:28 pm

    Why must the Europeans be like this? Why do they insist on fucking with a free and open internet instead of addressing the apparently unmet demand that is fueling a black market?

  • Post Author
    ur-whale
    Posted March 22, 2025 at 9:58 pm

    If there is ONE thing that needs to be decentralized RTFN, it is DNS.

    It's taking time, but the thugs in charge in various countries are slowly coming to realize that the easiest place to apply censorship is DNS because of its antiquated design and pervasiveness.

    One: you should be able to freely choose or name-to-IP-translation provider.

    Two: modern DNS should run on top of a trustless blockchain infrastructure.

    Namecoin was a very nice initial attempt, it's really sad it never took off.

    [EDIT]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namecoin

  • Post Author
    xvector
    Posted March 22, 2025 at 10:34 pm

    Why is Europe like this? I feel like this is what happens when you have a region that can't innovate and only knows how to regulate.

    Innovators cease to be represented at the government level and the general public equates regulation with safety. The result is an increasing amount of absurd policymaking related to technology.

  • Post Author
    antirez
    Posted March 23, 2025 at 1:13 am

    Is all that folks "Why is Europe like that" from US? In that case, remember that TikTok is going to be banned because it is destroying US social networks business. On the contrary, this is an official order after the proof of copyright infringement, and targets the specific devices that are attached by people here in Italy on their TVs to stoke content (pezzotto).

    It's not single people that go watch some streaming, it's a criminal organization that resells copyrighted content like footbool, F1, … and make the customers pay (less than Sky of course). This is stealing.

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