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I drove 300 miles, then asked police to send me surveillance footage of my car. by bookofjoe

I drove 300 miles, then asked police to send me surveillance footage of my car. by bookofjoe

I drove 300 miles, then asked police to send me surveillance footage of my car. by bookofjoe

12 Comments

  • Post Author
    Molitor5901
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 12:36 pm

    I've seen this done before by journalists requesting license plate reader data but it's another nail in the coffin of anonymity. Dare I say unless you wear a full face mask, change your walking gait, and just about every habit you have, there is no escape. In television I've seen talk about masks and garments that help prevent this, but I think it's a zero sum game. You will be tracked. You will be photographed, profiled, analyzed and that data is likely sold to the highest bidder and it's only accelerating.

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    tyingq
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 12:38 pm

    It talks about Flock branded surveillance in several places, then the news site itself asks for donations with this tagline "Thanks for joining our flock!". Short double-take on that donation area for me.

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    boomboomsubban
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 12:44 pm

    Don't FOIA requests charge you for the manhours it took, or is it just the data transfer cost? It might vary by state now that I think of it. I wonder how much these cost.

    Saying these requests constitutes a felony is ludicrous, hopefully the judge sees the case as a bad prank.

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    gosub100
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 12:47 pm

    Let me guess: get the police to pay for them and sell the data to advertisers.

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    sebstefan
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 12:49 pm

    I don't think there should be an expectation of anonymity for the specific case of operating a car on a public road. It's a lot of responsibility, so you should be scrutinized when you do it.

    That's part of my grievances against the urbanism of the U.S.A. When the only viable option to get around is cars, there is no privacy.

    It's important to advocate for public places to be livable for everyone, not just drivers.

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    gadders
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 12:56 pm

    I fell arse over tit at a London tube station and requested the CCTV footage under the GDPR. Got a lovely full colour DVD of me stacking it.

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    noodlesUK
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 12:57 pm

    I think the crazy thing about ANPR/ALPR is just quite how simple it is to create a massive panopticon. The UK has a fairly established national ANPR system, and it generates on the order of 90M records per day [1]. All of this data is available to various law enforcement agencies. If you drive, you're probably being recorded in a way accessible to the PNC every day.

    Because of how effective this is for catching even fairly minor violations like failure to pay road tax, number plate cloning is becoming pretty common (comparatively) in the UK. This means that you can easily get swept up in a police dragnet because someone has stolen your car's identity.

    [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-anpr-ser…

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    josefritzishere
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 1:01 pm

    Creepy AF. We live in a prison.

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    DeathArrow
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 1:22 pm

    If I were to be a road pirate, I would only have used government license plates. Let them fine themselves!

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    throwALPRsaway
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 1:23 pm

    [dead]

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    leoqa
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 1:26 pm

    Most cars already emit RF signals for WiFi, Bluetooth and 5G. These can be fingerprinted along with the physical attributes to increase accuracy.

    I’m in support of better investigative tools and stricter governance. I’m not worried that my car location would lead to a false arrest- that is like being afraid of lighting striking.

  • Post Author
    unyttigfjelltol
    Posted March 28, 2025 at 1:31 pm

    Next Uber will be pitching a privacy-centric upgrade, similar to VPN positioning today, to preserve privacy in the face of mass roadway surveillance.

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