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Global population datasets systematically underrepresent rural population by croes

Global population datasets systematically underrepresent rural population by croes

Global population datasets systematically underrepresent rural population by croes

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    wongarsu
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 5:30 pm

    Because of the nature of the data (resettlements for dam construction) two thirds of the data is from China. But interestingly according to Figure 7 [1] the discrepancy exists even in countries with normally very meticulous record keeping, like Sweden and Germany. I find this surprising.

    The root cause analysis also falls short for those cases: Germany's bureaucracy might be underfunded but fundamentally requires every resident to register at their place of residence. There is also no large-scale conflict or violence in Germany, no regions are really remote or hard to reach, all rural areas are electrified (important for satellite-based night-time light counting by GRUMP and WorldPop). The only satisfying root causes left are about satellite counting methods being too coarse or badly tuned to accurately count rural area, or rural living patterns possibly not fitting the assumptions of these models. But it's weird that these errors are so similar between so many different methods, not all of which even use satellite data

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-56906-7/figures/7

  • Post Author
    delichon
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 5:37 pm

    If this is true of the U.S. Census it would imply that congressional apportionment is biased against rural areas. So the question has a strong political valance and neutrality is not to be expected.

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    renecito
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 6:17 pm

    "systematically", dude, it costs money, it might not be safe.

    There are some rural places in the Mountains in places not so far from America where they harass and rape teachers, doctors or any government service employees.

    The national census always struggles how to safely and practically reach those places.

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    resource_waste
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 6:25 pm

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    bschmidt501
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 6:30 pm

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    modeless
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 6:34 pm

    Is there compensation given to people resettled during dam construction?

  • Post Author
    araes
    Posted March 21, 2025 at 7:41 pm

    Part that got me midway through was the suspicion (confirmed at the end) that maybe the current 8,000,000,000 estimates for world population numbers have some rather large inaccuracies.

    From the discussion:

    > how reliable current global population estimates really are. For example, is it possible that global population estimates from the United Nations (7.98 billion in 2022) or World Bank (7.95 billion in 2022), both relying heavily on national population censuses, miss a significant part of the world population?

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