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Driverless semis have started running regular longhaul routes by harambae

Driverless semis have started running regular longhaul routes by harambae

Driverless semis have started running regular longhaul routes by harambae

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  • Post Author
    superkuh
    Posted May 2, 2025 at 6:27 pm

    It's good they're doing this first in a place that doesn't get long term snow accumulation on roads. But eventually there should be autonomous vehicle tests in places with non-cherry picked road conditions.

  • Post Author
    lenerdenator
    Posted May 2, 2025 at 6:36 pm

    Hmmmmm.

    So we're going to have a lot of people potentially unemployed because of this…

  • Post Author
    andy99
    Posted May 2, 2025 at 6:43 pm

    Curious if there are specific route features that make this feasible or not, like traffic conditions or the roads or the warehouses on either end.

  • Post Author
    ge96
    Posted May 2, 2025 at 7:07 pm

    Tangent

    Reminds me of this (automated systems still doing their thing after humans are gone)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhRapsbwhqE

  • Post Author
    somethoughts
    Posted May 2, 2025 at 7:16 pm

    I feel like the ideal scenario would be to prioritize self driving truck at set times and set long haul freeways (i.e. Long Beach to Las Vegas or Galveston to Dallas) during the night time when there is no regular auto traffic – for example from 1 am-6 am.

    That way if a human driver is concerned, they can choose not to drive during this period of time.

    Perhaps run the trucks in a train style configuration where a "conductor" can sit in the lead truck and manage any emergency issues that arise (i.e. security, crash or weather related).

    If fully autonomous, I could see securing the cargo being real issue – what would stop a few cars passage in front of the truck and helping themselves to the cargo.

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    EvanAnderson
    Posted May 2, 2025 at 7:17 pm

    There's also a trial of "platooning" of driverless trucks on I-70 in Ohio and Indiana: https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbishop1/2025/04/24/ease-…

    A "drivered" lead truck is leading one or more driverless trucks in this case.

    I drive the stretch of highway these trucks are on fairly regularly. I don't know that I've seen a group of them yet but I'm keeping my eye out.

    I'm probably just showing my age, but I like the idea of a "drivered" truck leading driverless trucks versus a completely autonomous system. It's similar to my attitude on crewed spaceflight– I like the idea of the ingenuity and capacity for independent thought supervising an automated systems, versus autonomous automated systems.

  • Post Author
    kgwxd
    Posted May 2, 2025 at 7:58 pm

    Just as there's about to be nothing to ship

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    _heimdall
    Posted May 2, 2025 at 11:07 pm

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out with any impacts from tariffs if we keep playing that game long term.

    I guess I should say its morbid curiosity. If we do in fact have a lot of drivers out of work because international shipping is way down, I hope humans are hired before these trucks.

  • Post Author
    supportengineer
    Posted May 2, 2025 at 11:10 pm

    In America, we are willing to do anything to avoid expanding or upgrading our rail infrastructure.

  • Post Author
    wonderwonder
    Posted May 2, 2025 at 11:40 pm

    The future is here. Truckers are one of the largest employers in the country. We are moving fast towards a new era. We need to start thinking about how we adjust as a society

  • Post Author
    A4ET8a8uTh0_v2
    Posted May 3, 2025 at 12:18 am

    I am of two minds about all this. On the one hand, I see the clear, long-term potential given that half the people I see while driving are somehow on their phone. From that perspective, it can't come soon enough. Some people need to be off the road. On the other, I am annoyed that we are effectively beta testing those on public roads with public paying the price.

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    NanoYohaneTSU
    Posted May 3, 2025 at 12:49 am

    None of those numbers are impressive. Longhaul only from Dallas to Houston. What's missing in the article is the huge number of issues that the system most certainly has.

    We've been promised driverless technology for over 10 years now. If you can't do it with cars, then why does anyone think we would have it with delivery trucks?

    Please use critical thinking for one second. I beg you HN. This is just another tech company scam that will get dumped as soon as they get the investor money.

  • Post Author
    gerdesj
    Posted May 3, 2025 at 12:50 am

    When these things can drive to Moose Fucker in the far north, across frozen lakes etc then we are in the future. For now: cute but could do better.

  • Post Author
    mmooss
    Posted May 3, 2025 at 1:14 am

    Is that what the public wants? I suspect that if the public was aware, the verdict would be clear.

  • Post Author
    notepad0x90
    Posted May 3, 2025 at 2:07 am

    I'm assuming these are electric? Because even with a driver, longhaul electric trucks are not practical at scale right now, the energy infrastructure and capacity to support them is nowhere near there.

    My point being (and please correct me), this is practical but 15-20 years away from widespread adaption, best case.

  • Post Author
    culi
    Posted May 3, 2025 at 2:09 am

    If anyone else is just curious about the companies involved:

    > autonomous trucking firm Aurora announced it launched commercial service in Texas under its first customers, Uber Freight and Hirschbach Motor Lines

    https://aurora.tech/

  • Post Author
    hoherd
    Posted May 3, 2025 at 2:10 am

    I expected to find some of the tech that snow plows use on Donner Pass for lane keeping, RRDPS, but couldn't find any info indicating that they are using highway embedded sensors to aid the autonomous trucks.

    https://dot.ca.gov/-/media/dot-media/programs/research-innov…

    > The RRPDS must maintain an estimate of the vehicle state
    (i.e., position, velocity, heading, and heading rate) relative to the roadway with position accurate to a few
    centimeters.

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