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    heyitsguay
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 5:36 pm

    Cool idea, very ambitious, is there any prior research or feasible testing setup that would support getting from 0 to 1 with this?

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    woleium
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 5:47 pm

    Sounds like someone bought into the Dyson tree meme revival that was floating round the internet a month so ago!

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    Apofis
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 5:51 pm

    That would be in interesting direction for our tech to go, everything grown organically including space structures.

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    ge96
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 5:52 pm

    Cylon basestar here we come

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    barbazoo
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 5:57 pm

    > Some examples of structures that could be biologically manufactured and assembled, but that may be infeasible to produce traditionally, include tethers for a space elevator, grid-nets for orbital debris remediation, kilometer-scale interferometers for radio science, new self-assembled wings of a commercial space station for hosting additional payloads, or on-demand production of patch materials to adhere and repair micrometeorite damage.

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    nullbyte
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 6:02 pm

    This is how Zerg starts

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    hirenj
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 6:47 pm

    First question I have is what kind of nutrient base conditions can we expect to start from? Should it be like Earth, or somewhere a bit more resource constrained (and how would it be constrained)?

    I’d like to imagine solar reactors mimicking primordial goo to synthesise the essentials for these materials.

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    chr1
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 6:58 pm

    Somewhat similar and probably easier to achieve would be trees floating in open ocean, and some kind of plant capable to bring nutrients up from the large depth.

    Currently most of the ocean is a lifeless desert, with most of life concentrated in the places where upwelling occurs. This kind of floating trees would add enough biomass to compensate for all of the human produced CO2 and even more.

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    debacle
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 7:20 pm

    Step 1 would be to see if a nonporous wood holds up to the vacuum of space with enough durability. The biggest issue would be reclaiming moisture from the wood as it dried rather than losing it to space. Things like corals or molluscs would be too heavy (though that idea spawned a wonderful series of 16 bit side scrolling video games).

    Without some sort of easy orbital exit/entry, it's unlikely that being "in space" will be a feasible permanent option.

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    ckemere
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 7:29 pm

    When reading these program announcements, it's important to keep in mind that the (unofficial?) mandate for a DARPA program officer is to fund proposals that lie in the boundaries of [Doesn't at face violate laws of physics, P(Success) = 0.2]. A program where the vast majority of aims were clearly successfully delivered would be a program that should have been funded by other government agencies.

    Of course, with R&D currently on the chopping block, we'll see if the same people that complain about NSF/NIH start coming for DARPA also…

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    jeisc
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 7:37 pm

    Couldn't a self replicating structure grow out of control like vines and weeds?

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    TeeMassive
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 7:45 pm

    Someone at DARPA read Night's Dawn

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    feverzsj
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 8:03 pm

    I don't want a bloody meat spaceship. They should try crystallization.

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    fuzzythinker
    Posted February 26, 2025 at 8:37 pm

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