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Better Shell History Search by ltratt

Better Shell History Search by ltratt

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  • Post Author
    SrslyJosh
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 12:15 am

    > What does 5408 mean and why is it taking up valuable screen space?

    For anyone who's not familiar with something as basic as the history command, please pick up a book on bash/zsh/sh and take the time to learn.

    If you don't know how to use the shell, you will struggle with (or simply be unable to perform) many basic tasks that could be accomplished quickly and easily by someone who's taken the time to learn how to use the shell and a handful of basic tools like grep, sed, awk, etc.

  • Post Author
    yjftsjthsd-h
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 12:54 am

    > and I’ve come across more than one paid professional who doesn’t use the “up” key to retrieve the previous command.

    Well. I prefer ctrl-p personally, but I take your point:)

  • Post Author
    northisup
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 1:06 am

    I love fzf but no need to invent the wheel here if you are using zsh. check out one of these zle plugins. (Demo https://asciinema.org/a/155704)

    I prefer these two, you get good performance, search that is semi-shell syntax aware, ranking that takes age somewhat into account, and syntax hilighting.

    https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/history-search-multi-wo… with https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/fast-syntax-highlightin…

    or the same thing but older, for those who like older things because they have an air of stability about them: https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-history-substring-search

  • Post Author
    csdvrx
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 1:39 am

    Ctrl-R and sorting by time since the last run is nice, but odds are you run the same commands again and again WITHIN the context provided by the current directory, so the cwd should be kept

    Another important parameter is the number of successful runs: if you successfully ran the same command in the same directory 30 times in the last 30 days, it may be more useful that the one you have only run 1 time yesterday, so the exit value (like `false ;echo $?`) is another thing to keep

    I have 2 bash shortcuts: one for a context-free search (Ctrl-T), while the default (Ctrl-R) is restricted to the current directory, and I throw everything (cwd, start time, stop time, exit value…) in a sqlite database to do more advanced queries (ex: on average, at which hour do I make more mistakes?)

  • Post Author
    eating555
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 1:44 am

    Bro, just use fish shell. They have done all the heavy lifting for you.

  • Post Author
    3r7j6qzi9jvnve
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 1:58 am

    > I’m also not sure the ‘fuzzy’ aspects of Atuin quite match the heights of fzf/skim).

    This. I've been using atuin for a few months and this is so horrible how much better it could be with a "real" fzf matching…
    I just tried skim shell integration ( https://github.com/skim-rs/skim/tree/master/shell ) and it's great.
    I kind of like the extra metadata atuin saves (cwd, session context), but I think I was just waiting to stumble into this to turn atuin back off…

  • Post Author
    jakebasile
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 1:59 am

    I use Atuin, but unlike the author actually find it more valuable since I use it across many machines. I have 7 different machines (of various make and OS though all *NIX) in my house right now that I regularly SSH in to or use directly, and Atuin's sync keeps my history on all of them. If I want to narrow down by host I can still do that. I also keep similar directory structures so I can narrow down by directory even if I performed a command on a different machine most of the time.

    That said, some form of advanced history search is a game changer, no matter how you get it. It's one of those "can't understand how I lived without it" things once you get it going.

  • Post Author
    devjam
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 3:13 am

    I've been using McFly [1] recently, and like it a lot.

    > McFly replaces your default ctrl-r shell history search with an intelligent search engine that takes into account your working directory and the context of recently executed commands. McFly's suggestions are prioritized in real time with a small neural network.

    [1] https://github.com/cantino/mcfly

  • Post Author
    joshka
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 3:29 am

    > but I’ll often run a tiny subset of those commands (e.g. cargo test) hundreds of time in a single day.

    Bacon replaces that command entirely for me (and many other cargo commands which would otherwise be run repetitively). https://dystroy.org/bacon/

  • Post Author
    Hobadee
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 3:29 am

    I use zsh-histdb, and it's amazing. It shows return statuses and which directory the command was run from.

    I honestly can't remember the entire setup, but my dotfiles that have the setup are here:
    https://github.com/Hobadee/dotfiles/blob/master/Common/profi…

  • Post Author
    hello_computer
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 3:34 am

    I usually only care about commands from the same session, but sometimes I need to delve into the global history. With the default bash setup on most distros, the history log isn't updated until the shell terminates–leaving the "global" history incomplete until the other shells terminate. That is, I can lookup history from "dead" shells, but not from "living" ones.

    I think shell history would be more practical if it appended to the history log after each command (rather than at the end of the session), and tagged each line with some form of "session ID"–allowing us to distinguish between "local" and "global" history.

    You can force a flush to the log "as-is" with things like prompt overrides, but that's an all-or-nothing solution, saddling us with history from foreign shells even when we don't want it. Adding a session ID to the history log, and another flag to the built-in "history" command (to toggle between local and global history), would be a worthwhile improvement.

  • Post Author
    m1keil
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 3:43 am

    ctrl+r with fzf and zoxide for quick dir jumping is all I need in the shell nowadays.

  • Post Author
    throwmazacx5
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 4:21 am

    LaTeX returns .tex file compilation bugs as .log files when using pdflatex [filename.tex]
    Is synthetic format prior to redirection and concatenating.
    Whether using /.bashrc/ or saved in local directories, when debugging is typically resolved with querying X: quit or H: help.

  • Post Author
    fsckboy
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 4:40 am

    this sort of topic illustrates the type of vexing problems that I wish a community model was better at addressing. Chasing and solving your own pain points is cool but frequently creates new pain points for other people. I love more features for searching history, but…

    the reason bash uses Ctrl-r for searching back in history is because that's EMACS for searching back in your edit buffer (like C-a, C-f, C-b, C-e, etc are emacs cursor motions). I like the features of fzf, but I hate that it suddenly changes muscle memory that I rely on that is bigger than the immediate context.

    these kinds of problems show up all over. I have always relied heavily on "middle button pastes the current mouse selection". I don't know what's going on in linux–is it Wayland?–but that feature is increasingly and increasingly being broken in more and more places. one place (which may entail a different "feature creep") is "click the url-bar in the browser and it auto-selects the whole thing…uh uh uh, wait, but not anymore for the purposes of the X-selection. but you can get the X-selection back if you click again (to deselect the whole thing) then again to reselect the whole thing… or is it double click…" the mind boggles

    the old way (or goal) was to have the UI be standard, everywhere used the same code. but there were always people who wanted to innovate on their own, then with the idea of UX it wasn't any longer about standardization–or ironically personalization–at all

    I realize whoever are making these changes simply don't work the way I have (for the last 35 yrs (well, that's just with linux)) so they don't notice what's being thrown away. I guess it's getting close to that time I should climb on and drift away on a little ice raft…

  • Post Author
    larusso
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 4:46 am

    I have a similar setup. I use fzf plus a unique shared history that is 10000 items long. Last time I moved machines one of the important things to take over was my shell history. I have old obscure invocations that I can‘t remember but know that I did them in the past ;)
    Unique is the key for me. I don‘t care that I ran cargo test 20 times in a row. Shared history across shells is a bit polarizing depending on your workflow. For me it’s important to have access to the items I ran in a different window/tab.
    But what I can‘t understand is why so many paid professionals stick to the defaults. I shows my setup a few people and they all went: „what ?!? That is possible“ And that is the end of it. Well most devs I know sadly don‘t even know how to use the default search. The fact that you have to hit CTRL-R multiple times to skip to the next search result is a mystery.
    Maybe someone needs to package a shell where this kinds of options are just the default. And maybe adds a more modern key binding interface.

  • Post Author
    joshka
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 5:36 am

    > The network aspects of Atuin also gave me the heebie-jeebies. Reasonable people can differ on such matters.

    The networking stuff can be fully compiled out of Atuin. The client and sync feature flags[1] control this, and it's fairly trivial to confirm that the networking crate (reqwest) is only enabled when the sync feature is enabled.[2]

    Atuin can also be configured to only talk to your own sync server rather than the Atuin run server, and the history is e2e encrypted, so :shrug:. There's enough good engineering there that I'd not put it as particularly high on my list of security risks.

    [1]: https://github.com/atuinsh/atuin/blob/e8df3d168e7fb9d6f99d97…

    [2]: https://github.com/atuinsh/atuin/blob/e8df3d168e7fb9d6f99d97…

  • Post Author
    wodenokoto
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 5:50 am

    Things I'd like added to my command history:

    – where it was executed

    – If it failed

    – stickies/favourites

  • Post Author
    v3ss0n
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 7:21 am

    ReSH or McFly does the job.

  • Post Author
    worldsayshi
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 8:39 am

    What I'd really like is integration between fzf and bash autocompletion so that I can get more of a code completion like experience. Or maybe something smarter still. I feel I could get so much more value from kubectl and/or yq with a bit better ux in this regard.

    Maybe skim does this? Or fzf does it if I configure it differently?

    Ah, found this now, looks really promising!
    https://github.com/Aloxaf/fzf-tab
    (Oh, zsh specific)

  • Post Author
    bramgn
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 8:40 am

    No one using hstr? I'm a big fan of that one, though i must admit i haven't used much else other than bash's reverse history search.

  • Post Author
    shellwizard
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 9:56 am

    At $WORK most of the machines are running KSH and I ended getting used to the vi shortcuts rather than the Emacs style, so I have also turned to it on my personal computers. Just append `set -o vi` to the user .profile or .bashrc file, and then you can use all of the vi key commands: /|? for searching, n to search previous results, etc.

  • Post Author
    thiht
    Posted March 26, 2025 at 10:08 am

    If you install atuin to give it a try, be careful to backup your history first. I installed it once and it deleted all my zsh history for some reason. I've rarely been more aware of how much I rely on my history to get things done.

    Also it made atuin useless to me since I didn't have a history anymore so couldn't even try it properly.

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