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A loophole used by Shein/Temu to ship packages to US tax-free (2024) by donsupreme

A loophole used by Shein/Temu to ship packages to US tax-free (2024) by donsupreme

A loophole used by Shein/Temu to ship packages to US tax-free (2024) by donsupreme

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    LorenDB
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 8:34 pm
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    4ndrewl
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 9:20 pm

    Same in the UK.

  • Post Author
    qwe----3
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 9:20 pm

    They pay sales tax

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    mschuster91
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 9:23 pm

    Yeah, they use the same scam in Europe as well. There was a documentary following some customs officials a few months back, apparently they even use "smurfing" – they split large orders into multiple parcels with nominated "lower" values [1]… but of course sometimes the customs officials note "hey, I saw that recipient just a few packages ago".

    It's high time that we put the hammer down on Temu, Shein et al., and that hard. China and its companies routinely abuse relaxed rules meant for "developing" countries such as reduced, subsidised shipping or the mentioned tax simplifications – that status absolutely has to end rather sooner than later.

    And if they do not want to do that for whatever (corrupt?) reasons, at the very least mandate live feeds for all incoming parcels to customs.

    [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySUKSRydpnY

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    Hamuko
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 9:29 pm

    A "loophole" that is very cut-and-dried piece of law. If you want companies to pay tax on products, don't set the minimum value threshold to $800. We used to have it at about 45€, then at 22€ and now at 0€. If I need to buy a 5€ adapter from Aliexpress, I pay VAT on it.

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    loeg
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 9:33 pm

    It isn't a loophole. It's by design. You can argue the limit should be lower, but it's not like 2016's $200 threshold would break Temu either.

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    walterbell
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 9:50 pm

    U.S. de minimis exception ends on Tuesday 4 February 2025 for all Chinese imports. New limit of 0$ for all goods.

    What will be the total tariff percentage on custom PCBs from China?

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    Animats
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 9:55 pm

    That ended yesterday. Trump's new tariffs apply all the way down to $0.

    Not clear what happens now that Customs and Border Protection has to look at all those little boxes.

    This isn't unexpected, though. There was a notice of proposed rule making back in September 2024, and it was probably going to happen this year, anyway.[1]

    This is going to complicate the "dropshipping" business. The dropshipper is usually the importer, and they now have to pay customs duties. But they're not the seller of record (the one Amazon says is the seller), who collects from the customer. Amazon likes to consider the customer to be the importer, but that may not fly. Amazon sellers are going to have to deal with the wonderful world of customs brokers, bonded warehouses, and e-filing customs paper work.

    Dropshippers who order in bulk and then ship out individual packages now either have to pay duties when they get the bulk shipment, or use a bonded warehouse (inspected by CBP) to store stuff on which duty has not yet been paid. DHL has a bonded warehouse service.

    [1] https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/cbp-proposes-to-modify-the…

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    bentpins
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 10:01 pm

    I live in New Zealand – until 2019 things used to work this way for us too. A law was introduced to require overseas sellers selling more than $60,000 NZD/year into New Zealand to collect pay our Goods and Services Tax.
    Now Amazon/Temu/AliExpress others all collect 15% NZ GST at the checkout. It's pretty seamless as a buyer, just that GST is not usually shown until checkout unlike domestic sites.
    https://www.ird.govt.nz/gst/gst-for-overseas-businesses/gst-…

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    troad
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 10:09 pm

    I hate this cycle.

    1) Media – you won't believe this legal loophole!

    2) Politicians – what loophole? that's the law working as intended.

    3) Media – watch our corrupt politicians defend the evil loophole that costs us millions!

    4) Politicians – ok, we'll change it then. that'll get us positive coverage, right?

    5) Law – gets worse

  • Post Author
    ChrisArchitect
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 10:15 pm

    (2024)

    Year old story.

    More recent development discussion:

    US targets trade loophole used by ecommerce groups Temu and Shein

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41536137

  • Post Author
    zoklet-enjoyer
    Posted February 2, 2025 at 11:58 pm

    "loophole"

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