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They’re Close to My Body: A Hagiography of Nine Inch Nails and Robin Finck (2020) by herbertl

They’re Close to My Body: A Hagiography of Nine Inch Nails and Robin Finck (2020) by herbertl

They’re Close to My Body: A Hagiography of Nine Inch Nails and Robin Finck (2020) by herbertl

15 Comments

  • Post Author
    BLKNSLVR
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 7:03 pm

    I've only read parts of this so far, but it's pretty extraordinary. I'm going to have to commit more time later today to read the whole thing.

    I'm a fan of Nine Inch Nails, and music in general, but the way this is written is a few levels beyond what I think I'm even capable of feeling.

  • Post Author
    erikerikson
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 7:34 pm

    I'm always a little confused by people such as this one who loved Downward Spiral so much. It was a slide into confusion started in Broken, away from the honesty and struggle embodied in Pretty Hate Machine. It was the Pinnacle of the band's bowing to the commercial market and fall into anger which it didn't recover, IMO, from until reaching a more mature pinnacle (at least in regard to what I wanted from it and what drew me to it) on With Teeth. Right Where It Belongs is one of my all-time favorite songs wherein they both challenge the exterior and interior to greater truth, greater honesty.

  • Post Author
    thesurlydev
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 7:34 pm

    Great post. I've been a fan of NIN for over 30 years and no other band has had such a profound impact on my life. This is saying a lot because I've always been heavily into almost all genres. My biased opinion is that there's something for everyone somewhere in their discography because the music produced has varied quite a bit over the years. If you listen to them and like what you hear, they just announced a new tour.

  • Post Author
    qwertox
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 7:57 pm

    I should have never listened to NIN, but I have; too much. It started with Quake, then a neighbor gifted me a CD of Pretty Hate Machine and I followed it with Broken and The Downward Spiral, which then was the path I went myself.

  • Post Author
    SmashngKbds
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 8:27 pm

    I've been listening to NIN for 30-something years at this point.
    I will never stop.
    This article is very well written and while I can't identify with everything the author describes a whole lot of it lands. I'm really glad I found this on HN today!
    …A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

  • Post Author
    noelwelsh
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 8:43 pm

    My favourite NiN track, Call Me A Hole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lm1FL7gWl4

    A bit of an aside, but I love this mashup and hope some of you will enjoy it as well.

  • Post Author
    keiferski
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 8:58 pm

    Trent Reznor really has one of the greatest “maturation” processes of a musical artist that I can think of. His more recent work on The Social Network and The Vietnam War is such a refined, minimalistic version of the specific sound he started forming 20+ years earlier. Not all artists manage to mature in such an elegant way; many never end up quite matching their earlier works, or head into entirely different directions.

    Also, a fun random fact: Reznor’s uncle, I believe, ran a heating or HVAC company in the Pittsburgh area. You can still find the occasional industrial device with the REZNOR name on the side.

    https://partner.reznorhvac.com/en/as/products/product-unit-h…

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    fipar
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 9:28 pm

    "It instilled a belief in me that I still have to this day: that any spiritual ailment can be cured by playing music at maximum volume in a small, dark room."

    This is so true to me but I never thought of putting it to words like that. I love music and darkness so much that during some especially intense moments in live shows I've been to I close my eyes instead of looking at the band.

  • Post Author
    dingaling
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 9:50 pm

    I'll always feel slightly guilty when I look at the box-set of "And all that could have been" on my shelf.

    I bought it from a second-hand music store years ago and when I took it up to the checkout to pay for it ( for it was the days of cash ) the cashier looked heartbroken.

    "I'd been saving up to buy that," she whimpered.

    I bought it anyway.

    I still feel bad, but at least I've opened-up to the HN collective…

  • Post Author
    fireburning
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 10:09 pm

    any idea why they chose 9 inch nails?

    kind of crazy coincidence in the recent ethiopian conflict a new approach they used was to nail the uterus of women with 9 inch nails to make sure entire tribes are reduced in numbers but without raising genocide alarms

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    joeconway
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 10:13 pm

    I’ll take any opportunity I can to recommend this podcast, and this episode specifically. If this article resonates with you then it is absolutely worth the listen.

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/60-songs-that-explain-…

  • Post Author
    dlisboa
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 10:18 pm

    I've seen the term "hagiography" 8 times in the past three days in articles of different topics, having never heard the word before. Being that English is my second language, but the one I consume the most content in (more than my first), I pay close attention to word patterns and have seen the language evolve with my own eyes.

    But this one is weird. I think it's similar to the LLMs fixation with "delve", my guess is people are using AI to suggest articles.

  • Post Author
    droideqa
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 10:20 pm

    I don’t know if I like NIN, but I love Trent Reznor’s collaborations with Atticus Ross and I love How to Destroy Angels.

  • Post Author
    shoo
    Posted March 15, 2025 at 10:54 pm

    tangent: Inverse Phase's "pretty eight machine"

    https://inversephase.bandcamp.com/album/pretty-eight-machine…

    > Head Like I/O was the track that got this entire album started. I was at Ohayocon 2011 and joking around with Dave, Dirk, and Carlson about chiptune covers, and the topic of Nine Inch Nails came up. Being a fan, I mentioned that lots of NIN songs would lend themselves to chiptunes rather well, and I decided I would try to surprise everyone with a little bit of Head Like a Hole. In a bout of productivity, I was able to do a rough edit of about two minutes of the song in a day, and the surprise was a big success. The guys all pushed me to consider doing a Nine Inch Nails EP or album.

    > I did this track on the Commodore 64 because I got into a conversation with Carlson about it first, and I hadn't given the C64 enough love. The idea to use more systems for the album formed as the idea for the album itself took shape.

  • Post Author
    relaxing
    Posted March 16, 2025 at 1:32 am

    Fascinating bit of writing. I appreciate that it’s personal memoir as much as biography.

    Making Finck into a “mystic” feels a bit unfair. He’s a working musician and a sideman, not a rock star frontman. He takes his craft seriously, the technique of performance and the musicianship. Because he is not “in the band”, he will not be the subject of interviews. His job is not to provide you with any more insights than what you can take away yourself from the art he creates.

    I’ve made this mistake myself — assuming that because someone communicates in ways that are obscure, they must be concealing some greater truth. Building up that expectation inevitably leads to heartbreak.

    I imagine one of those memes that begins with the trad girl saying “thank you” and the subject of her attention would say “I’m literally just an introverted, neurodivergent musician.”

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